[TIPSIO]

If you’ve ever used the current Meta Ray Ban and AI, this almost exactly happens when the connection is bad. Pure confusion but the AI still tries to give you an answer.

I bet the device hardware is small/cheap and susceptible to interference

[stavros]

I have the Meta glasses and I've never noticed this, and don't even understand why it could be the connection's fault. The AI gets your audio and your image, if it gives the wrong answer, it's because the AI went wrong. How would the bad connection ever affect it?

[vunderba]

Exactly. Like... what are they even saying here - that if the connection drops then it falls back to a tiny "dropped on their head as a child" 4b parameter LLM embedded in the physical firmware and so that's why it is giving inane responses?

Mad props to the presenter for holding it together though.

[dmbche]

The ai is in the cloud

Edit0: ie without internet access the ai is unable to produce an answer other than some prerecorded ones I guess

In the live showcase the presenter even mentions that the wifi must have been bad for the ai to repeat the answer

[stavros]

You're saying "you've already used the first two ingredients, so go ahead and add the sauce" is the prerecorded response when it doesn't have a connection?

[dmbche]

No, that's the last queried answer. There is no ai in the glasses without a connection, so all it (edit1:it here being the program being run on the glasses, client to the ai between other things)can do (seemingly) is loop around and re-read the last queried answer, which was the mistaken "you've already...".

In the glasses is just a client to the ai. Like there is no ai in your phone when you talk to chatgpt, you are querying it and it will not keep talking to you if you cut off the wifi

The prerecorded responses I speculated about would have been things like "i'm having some connectivity problems, I'm unable to chat at this time, I'll let you know when I'm back." - the same kind of prerecorded things your earbuds tell you when they're low on power.

[tsimionescu]

This can't possibly be the case, because the AI voice says slightly different things between the two attempts. The first time it says "you've already combined the base ingredients, so now grate a carrot to add to the sauce"; while the second time it says "you've already combined the base ingredients, so now grate the carrot* and gently combine it with the base sauce".

Unless you think they've added some inference logic on the device to slightly re-state the last answer they got from the cloud, it's clear that the glasses were connected and receiving the same useless answer from the cloud.

* side note, but it can also sound like "pear" to me this second time

[dmbche]

Oh could very well be the case I've only listened once!

[stavros]

If you believe that they made the glasses repeat the last answer when they don't have connectivity, instead of saying "I don't have connectivity", I don't know what to tell you.

I own a pair of Meta glasses, and the response when they don't have connectivity is "this function is not available at this time".

[dmbche]

Isn't this a very odd discussion to keep going? I'm not sure why you're being so confrontational as well. I see you have a lot of points, is that a way to drive engagement?

[zmmmmm]

the thing is, if it loses the connection, why on earth would the correct behaviour be to just keep repeating the last response? It should just straight up say, "Sorry I'm having trouble connecting". Even the best case scenario here suggests terrible product design.

[dmbche]

Hard agree on terrible. I guess i'd have disabled the no connectivity message for the demo to give it a chance to reconnect gracefully/quickly if at all (by non stop querying even without wifi) but that's just guessing on my part. I think they're garbage and same for meta, if that needs saying

[m3kw9]

next time they need 1 public and 1 private router and shut the public off right before the demo.

[krustyburger]

Even if it’s small/cheap, if the item is scanned multiple times this will prevent any electrical infetterence.

[chatmasta]

I don’t even think that’s a word!