[dotancohen]

If we're on the subject of damning historic quotes, I've got one for you:

  > Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.

- Hamas founding charter

[ViewTrick1002]

Of course ignoring that Hamas was deliberately funded by Israel to cause a split between the politics of the West Bank and Gaza to prevent a unified political authority in Palestine.

[eej71]

I can well imagine a parallel universe where Israel gave them NO money whatsoever. You know what would have happened? Hamas would do the usual Islamic fundamentalist thing. Form a terrorist group and attack Israel. And then media commentators and intellectuals would accuse Israel of failing to help Hamas get put on the right path by helping them at the start, and instead Israel's inaction was like strangling a baby in the cradle. Typical Israel! Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

[FireBeyond]

Hamas had much less power.

You imagine the future that suits your perspective and act like it's a fait accompli.

In reality, the PLO would have (and had been) quelling Hamas effectively. And then they were sitting at the negotiating table (after a rather ugly period). So Israel was facing awkward questions of "If Arafat is willing to negotiate, why aren't you?", so the Israeli far right locked in on the idea of "surreptitiously fund Hamas against the PLA/PLO".

Your imaginings count for nothing, because they're just your preconceived notion.

[dotancohen]

And today they are promoted by second and third world countries who oppose the first world, specifically to divide the first world nations.

They are succeeding.

[ViewTrick1002]

This sounds to me like you are trying portray poorer countries as lesser worth because they had the guts of calling Israel out.

The solution to rich countries being divided on an the issue of an ongoing genocide is you know, not committing said genocide.

[dotancohen]

  > This sounds to me like you are trying portray poorer countries as lesser worth because they had the guts of calling Israel out.

No, I'm portraying non-US-aligned nations as having an interest in dividing the US-aligned nations.

What does "poorer" have anything to do with it? Is that some tactic to garner sympathy?

[ViewTrick1002]

> However, Third World is still used as a (pejorative) term for the traditionally less-developed world (e.g. Africa)

So now the entire west, NATO and other US allies should with blinded conviction approve of the genocide?

This seems like you are afraid of isolation and the fallout of the ongoing genocide.

There’s cracks showing and you know when they open Israel will lose its privileged position.

[throwaway3060]

Many (not all) of those countries are fine with when it's a member of the second or third worlds committing atrocities. So no, there's no guts here. They perceive it's in their interest to call out some acts but not others - just like almost everyone else.

[raxxorraxor]

It doesn't take "guts" to call out Israel in the forum of the UN. It is in 95% of cases just simple populism and nobody has to fear any consequences.