[coneonthefloor]

I use html and server side rendering. The whole react thing has passed me by. If I need to use a js framework to add interactivity it’s Alpine. But then I just ask myself the question? Is this bad design? And if the answer is yes, I look for a vanilla html approach. Bye the way... the answer is always yes.

[auxiliarymoose]

Yeah, I have to admit I don't really understand the need for front end frameworks in 2025 with how fully featured vanilla JS and CSS are.

With web components and a little bit of good architecture you can sidestep most front-end complexity. And server-side rendering dramatically simplifies state, because your state is now the database.