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by Ayesh 273 days ago
If the certificate was issued with must-staple flag, then the server can refuse to connect if the handshake did not include an OCSP response.

web servers can refresh OCSP responses in the background and cache valid responses to add some tolerance against temporarily downtimes in the OCSP server.

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Right, but the vast majoriry of servers don't use must-staple certs. So browsers would need to do something (even if that something is not checking revocations) for all the other connections anyway.

It's really a chicken and egg problem. Browsers don't want to support must-staple because not enough servers use it. And servers don't use it, because browsers don't require it (or even implement it). And now CAs don't support it, because hardly anyone was using it.

Now if CAs started requiring must-staple, that might push it into widespread use. But that would cause a lot of disruption.

If you're willing to put in the effort to implement OCSP in the first place, why not take the couple percent extra time to add must-staple support? This seems like it would have been a very easy to solve chicken and egg problem.
Browsers and CAs did support `must-staple`. Then they decided to drop support for OCSP altogether, in part because not enough servers were using must-staple (or ocsp stapling at all).

As for server implementaions. Most servers, sure it isn't that much harder to use `must-staple`, if you are already doing ocsp stapling. But most servers don't do the stapling at all, because there isn't a strong reason to, and you need to set up a system to periodically fetch and cache the OCSP signatures, and whatever system you use to terminate TLS needs to support it.