[timeon]

> The ones that can lead must lead.

I get frustration that people feel in some countries like Netherlands where emissions per capita is 6.56t CO2, while others that also can do something like US, do not (14.3t CO2 per capita).

> If everybody keeps looking at the others, nothing happens.

On the other hand, this is true.

[karmakurtisaani]

This is extremely frustrating considering also how much wealth there is in the US. Luckily on state level there are initiatives and some green energy is more cost efficient than ff. Still, not a great situation.