[CLPadvocate]

You wish. Basically 90% of German nazis stayed in Germany and were completely unharmed by any form of persecution. Most of them had even kept everything they stole from all the murdered people, including companies, homes, and items of value. A large share of the later West German Lawyers and Politicians had NS background, in the DDR it was slightly less. Of the rest - many were flown to the US to contribute to the American weapon programs, roughly similar share were taken to the UdSSR for the same reasons. "Burnt, buried, or escaped to South America" is the smallest part of them.

[Bender]

Either way, 100% of the people being called Nazi's, Fascists, Hitler are just people that other people do not agree with. Such words have entirely lost their meaning. Even the people cosplaying as Nazis as neo-nazi's are just larping junkie thuglets and are far from disciplined national socialists in expensive military uniforms.

[vkou]

> Either way, 100% of the people being called Nazi's, Fascists, Hitler are just people that other people do not agree with.

The other day, a Fox News host called for the mass-murder of mentally ill people.

> Brian Kilmeade suggested that mentally ill homeless people who refuse government assistance should be given "involuntary lethal injection" or something similar, adding, "Just kill 'em"

I guess if I call him a Nazi, that just means I just, like, disagree with him?

At what point can we call a spade a spade? What do we call that man?

How is he not getting cancelled? Should someone celebrating something bad happening to a man that's calling for mass-murder get cancelled?

[zahlman]

> the mass-murder of mentally ill people.

No, only those who refuse government assistance.

Which inherently makes them a threat to others. Keep in mind that this is happening in the context of Iryna Zarutska getting stabbed to death.

I disagree with it, but it's objectively not what you're representing it as.

> I guess if I call him a Nazi, that just means I just, like, disagree with him?

It's not justified by the evidence.

> At what point can we call a spade a spade? What do we call that man?

Something else.

> How is he not getting cancelled?

How isn't he? I've lost count of the times I've had to hear about this in the last few days, which is strange because I don't watch American TV at all and he has nothing to do with Kirk. If you think he should be fired from Fox because of it then you are absolutely welcome to call them and say so. That's freedom of speech, and I agree that you have a much better case than most of the "cancelling" attempts I've seen over the years. Fox execs, however, are under no obligation to agree with you.

> Should someone celebrating something bad happening to a man that's calling for mass-murder get cancelled?

I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Kirk and Kilmeade are different people.

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

> it's objectively not what you're representing it as

Well, they represented it as "the mass-murder of mentally ill people". There's lots of them (mass), they're being intentionally killed against their will (murder), and the vast majority of chronically homeless people are mentally ill.

Maximally, it is subjectively not how they represent it, if one believes that a state-sanctioned judicial killing is not murder. That is far from a universal belief.

[zahlman]

If I said that I wanted to grab some leftovers from the fridge that would not mean that I considered anything in the fridge to be an acceptable meal.

I italicized "who refuse government assistance" for a reason: because that's the part that makes the claim a misrepresentation.

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

> I italicized "who refuse government assistance" for a reason

This does not make an objective misrepresentation. It doesn't even make it a subjective misrepresentation. They would be objectively misrepresenting it if "mass-murder" is objectively incorrect and/or if "mentally ill people" is objectively incorrect. As I said in my previous comment: mass-murder is, at worst, subjectively incorrect and mentally ill people is obviously correct.

I don't have to wonder why they refuse government assistance. It's the mental illness. You are stating that you believe the policy is justified because they are mentally ill.