[flkiwi]

Identity politics. Rejecting identity politics for economic justice. Rejecting economic justice for economic revolution. It goes on and on. There are so many overlapping and contradictory purity tests among the various branches of the left, that meaningful opposition from the left is more of a coincidence than anything one can plan for.

[adrr]

Name a purity test. Stop dancing around the question.

[recursive]

This is a setup to fail a purity test. We'll skip the formalities and you can just preemptively consider this a failure.

[flkiwi]

Name a meaningful victory of the American left's approach in the last 25 years. Stop dancing around the question.

[adrr]

The conservative masquerading as an independent blaming the left for fake issues of why as you can't support them. Trope is as old as time.

Strongest economies are from blue states. Poorest are red states. Same with crime. Health out comes(Life expectancy, infant. mortality). Who was the only president to run a surplus in recent history.

[flkiwi]

Ha, I'm neither conservative nor independent nor particularly moderate. I'm firmly, vigorously left in ideology. It's delightful that your conclusion upon receiving criticism of the left's approach is that the speaker must be a conservative. Thank you for illustrating the purity test issue!

Anyway, instead of being dedicated to achieving change, the American left CONSTANTLY gets distracted, e.g., complaining about those successful Democratic presidents (or candidates) who drive meaningful change as "incrementalist", "too moderate", or, my absolute favorite, "liberal" as if the European use of the word has ever mapped to the American use. I've even seen people on the left criticize AOC for selling out, when what she is doing is practicing effective politics.