[Amezarak]

How hard are you looking? I was looking early last year and despite hundreds of applications, got nothing but automated rejection emails, if that.

I also know many new grads looking for jobs and having a lot of trouble.

Unfortunately, their experience is telling their younger peers not to go into tech - it's full.

[hvb2]

I'm not the first filter, there's a recruiter upstream for me. And this wasn't for new grads but senior positions.

What I'm trying to say is that all the 'good' resumes that made it through were almost exclusively for non citizens or naturalized people.

[Amezarak]

I’d qualify as a senior and like I said, hundreds of apps and not even an interview - very different from 5+ years ago, where almost 50% of apps resulted in an interview.

When you’re a hiring manager, you need to do whatever it takes to be the first filter, or at least get the permissions needed to see candidates excluded by recruiting/hR.

This is crazy and I don’t understand it but HR and recruiters do not pass along the majority of strong candidates. I have no idea why, often the resumes are indistinguishable from ones they forward on, and plenty of the candidates they forward to me are just prima facie not qualified.

[hvb2]

You cannot compare between years like that. There are ups and downs, currently we're certainly not in an up except for special skills I guess.

5 years ago all of big tech massively overhired, they let go a lot of people later, so that's not a fair comparison.

Also, you cannot expect a hiring manager to do everything. If the company decides I shouldn't be spending my time screening candidates then that's not what I do.

[Amezarak]

It sounds like you’re saying the job market imploded in the last five years. In that case, it seems like we should halt h1b visas until it recovers.

> Also, you cannot expect a hiring manager to do everything. If the company decides I shouldn't be spending my time screening candidates then that's not what I do.

Maybe it’s different for you. I hire people I have to work with, so I am going to do whatever it takes to make sure I get good candidates. I can’t imagine a better possible use of my time.

[hvb2]

> It sounds like you’re saying the job market imploded in the last five years. In that case, it seems like we should halt h1b visas until it recovers.

In tech, yes. In general I don't know and not all h1b's are tech

> I hire people I have to work with, so I am going to do whatever it takes to make sure I get good candidates.

Same, but that doesn't mean I'm going to do the work someone upstream from me has already done again