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> Their honest transparent, and vocal opinions

How do you know the opinions are honest? That strikes me as not easily assessable. What does it mean that an opinion is transparent?

I believe they are honest because they are pushing factual numbers and speaking in reference to eye witness accounts.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tucker-carlson-endorses-donald-...

dleary 280 days ago

But we know, with absolute certainty, from the Dominion lawsuit subpoenas, that Tucker Carlson was privately telling people that Trump was awful, while publicly saying the opposite.

His private texts include, "We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can't wait.”

And

"I hate him passionately. ... I can't handle much more of this”.

He was sending these texts while publicly repeating the standard Fox News lines about how great Trump is, etc.

How can you ever consider him honest, after this?

This isn’t that. To consider his, or anyone else’s, honesty I compare what they say to the evidence they present and contrast that against competing claims from other sources.

So what you mean by "honest" is "they believe the same things as facts like I do, and draw the same conclusions?"

Or put differently: "they have the same world view as I have?"

motorest 280 days ago

> So what you mean by "honest" is "they believe the same things as facts like I do, and draw the same conclusions?"

I think it means "I am a sucker with no critical thinking skills and fell for their propaganda".

The attempts to whitewash and normalize Russian assets such as Tucker Carlson also give pause. It's hard to believe someone can be this gullible, specially after being presented with facts and still doubling down on whitewashing the character.

By honest I mean their opinions more closely align to the multitude of evidence available. Other opinions upon that same evidence are welcome.

mdhb 280 days ago

Is there something special about you that has you convinced you’re not being tricked? Like do you think you have some exceptionally good bullshit detector? I’m genuinely curious about the mentality here.

What lead you to believe you can take two people like Tucker Carlson and MTG who are PRIMARILY known for spouting bullshit and you can somehow magically decipher the signal from the noise? Is it just the topic of Israel that you agree with them on? What are you actually comparing them against? I’d love to know more about what you’re describing looks like in practice because it sounds very handwavy at the moment and maybe it would be a better discussion with concrete details.

Because in this case most politicians are performing double speak and failing to directly answer questions about recent Israel conduct. Many of these politicians claiming in private what most of us are seeing in the news. It is refreshing to have at least some politicians step up to the plate and directly speak to the numbers and multitude of evidence.

Likewise consider the opposite. Until recently I really respected Buttigieg, but when asked about Israel he cannot answer the question. He hopelessly looks for a moderate safe way out and it looks really incompetent.

myvoiceismypass 280 days ago

> I believe they are honest because they are pushing factual numbers and speaking in reference to eye witness accounts.

In 2018, MTG suggested that the CA fires were a result of The Rothchilds sending laser beams to earth and missing their intended target.

Political theater.

[1] https://quoteinvestigator.com/2020/04/11/casualty/

I am skeptical of any numbers from a war zone with a public relations war going on at the same time. This appears to be generally admitted, as witnessed by quotes as the long standing and cross cultural "the first casualty of war is truth." [1]

So I'm curious. How do you know the numbers are factual and they eye witnesses are what they say they are?

Sure, so get foreign journalists in there so that we can all know for sure. Until such time I will retain the personal opinion that Israel is lying about everything.

But Hamas is not?

Its hard to tell since Israel keeps killing the few journalists there.

simianwords 280 days ago

Bernard Sanders is against Israel despite being Jewish. It is surprising because he seems to be one of the few people who is not corruptible despite technically having religious and cultural links to Israel.

It comes down to the fact that he is a normie. He sees people dying and he instinctively speaks against it. It is similar with economical and other political talking points.

Bernie Sanders is Jewish but does not claim to have any such links to Israel.

simianwords 280 days ago

He has religious and cultural links to Israel. He can become a citizen of Israel anytime he wishes. He probably has family there as well.

He has stated that he has no such links and no association to Israel, whether religious or cultural or familial.