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by mytailorisrich 282 days ago
The same reply, again and again... The usual ostrich policy that ignores Hamas, what they stand for, what they do, and their support in Gaza.

As I have just written peace with Hamas is not possible since their aim is to destroy Israel and remove all Jews by any means necessary. The only thing achievable is a deal for a temporary truce, which Hamas will use to regroup and rearm until they launch their next attack.

Hamas praised and claimed responsibility for the attack on Monday in Jerusalem in which 6 civilians were gunned down. That's how seriously they are "negotiating" for peace. [Israel's bombing of their "negotiators" in Qatar came the following day]

So let's really help the people of Gaza and step up pressure to rid it of Hamas. That's how this war ends sooner than later.
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tdeck 282 days ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/01/hamas-new-char...

Hamas presents new charter accepting a Palestine based on 1967 borders (2017)

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mytailorisrich 282 days ago
Without recognising Israel, so...

> but Netanhayu says: ‘Hamas is attempting to fool the world’

Recent events have proved him right, haven't they?

> On 24 October [2023, right after 7th October], Ghazi Hamad—member of the decision-making Hamas Political Bureau—explained the 7 October attack: "Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country because it constitutes a security, military and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation". [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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tdeck 282 days ago
If there's one person we should all trust, it's Benjamin Netanyahu, teller of numerous verifiable lies (remember "40 beheaded babies") and wanted war criminal.
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ath3nd 281 days ago
Netanyahu is a wanted war criminal.

Israel is doing a genocide on the Palestinian population.

You can Hamas this, Hamas that, but Netanyahu bombs hospitals, Palestinian children, starves the Palestinian population, and murders journalists. All war crimes, all stuff we have seen with our own eyes thanks to the wonders of technology.

> On 24 October [2023, right after 7th October], Ghazi Hamad—member of the decision-making Hamas Political Bureau—explained the 7 October attack: "Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country because it constitutes a security, military and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation".

https://www.dw.com/en/netanyahu-vows-there-will-be-no-palest...

"Netanyahu vows 'there will be no Palestinian state'"

Which is funny, cause there is already a Palestinian state, recognized by 147 of 193 UN countries. Which is similar to Israel: 165 of 193 UN countries. So it seems Netanyahu...is wanting to ...destroy a whole nation...kind of...ethnically cleanse it? Sure sounds like a genocider to me.

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mytailorisrich 281 days ago
You completely ignred the substance of my comment, repeated talking point, and added whataboutism.

Very sad.

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ath3nd 281 days ago
Stop the genocide. Israel is doing a genocide and there is nothing to be discussed about its finer points until it stops. Stop it and then we can discuss how similar it was to other genocides and how to punish the Israeli heads of state in Hague.
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mrguyorama 281 days ago
>peace with Hamas is not possible since their aim is to destroy Israel and remove all Jews by any means necessary.

I agree, but that doesn't make how Israel conducts this war acceptable.

It has been reported pretty consistently how Israel basically accepts crazy high "collateral damage" in their work, and have demonstrated that they do not respect Palestinians as sovereign individuals who do not deserve to be bombed for being next door to a terrorist.

Israel has demonstrated that they will literally bomb things due to AI hallucination.

You don't get to freely kill anyone you want just because there are some terrorists in that country. Putin doesn't get a pass to bomb all of Ukraine just because some people really hate Russia in that country.

This is NOT an existential war for Israel, not at this time. They do not get to act like it's a free for all with who they kill.

They have killed tens of thousands in their attempts to harm Hamas, and despite demonstrating that they have the precision and power to do so with significantly fewer innocent deaths, they have no problem with the innocent body count they have undeniably stacked up.

Israel has chosen to do this with utter cruelty. That's not necessary. It's unacceptable.

Israel needs to give Palestinians who don't want to be under the yoke of Hamas some sort of option that isn't "die".

Israel needs to sort out how abhorrent their soldiers act. You don't get to act like rampaging colonizers and then cry foul when the modern world is unhappy about it.

The cruelty can only be intentional at this point.

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