[pjmlp]

Pity that whole thing with having a job, and wanting to get some better living standards.

People usually don't live in the suburbs by choice, they get pushed there by the higher classes that can afford the city.

Having lost access to the city center during my teenage years certainly gave me a perspective on those that talk from above, without worries about everyone else.

[m-schuetz]

Around here, people voluntarily move to the suburbs because they want a house and a garden or simply larger flats for a lower price. And then they demand that prople inside the city center cater to them and turn their city into a parking lot for those not living there. I'm glad this is now being slowly reversed, and that cities actually look after their citizens rather than commuters that moved away because they wanted large houses.

[pjmlp]

As if, living in the suburbs means having larger houses.

Feeling lucky living into one of those matchbox sized flat up on the 15th floor, while community 4h per day, distributed between several buses, train and subway lines.

[wolvesechoes]

> Around here

And around here people are moving out of the city because they cannot afford a flat in the city.

[lomase]

People usually don't live in the suburbs by choice, they get pushed there by the higher classes that can afford the city.

People in Spain live in the suburbs by choice.

[jlaternman]

it really doesnt work like that in Spain. The associations say the US has with what a suburd is, and of suburban life, does not translate to Spanish city planning. A better word for "suburb" in Spain would be "outskirts" of city—somewhere you might be pushed to for financial reasons. They are often urbanised areas of cheap apartment blocks, and if rural, not in a fancy way, e.g. large spacious houses. The discussion on this thread is coming from a cultural misunderstanding.

There are of course also very nice houses around cities, and rural ones out from that, but they rarely characterise suburbs in Spain (Barcelona is an exception I've noticed, and Madrid has some satellite towns and cities North of city that are very plush, though not the suburbs).

[pjmlp]

As someone that grew up between Portugal and Spain, you can only be joking, by choice!, thanks for making my day.

Unless you mean those CEOs of construction companies, and offshore factories, with their villas and high powered sports cars.

I really would have liked my parents had such a "choice"!

[lomase]

A "chalet adosado" was the dream of every Spanish born in the 60s in a city.