[yetihehe]

1. Lose all the allies, become isolated.

2. Allies are less powerful, the world starts another world war

3. Get sneakily attacked

4. Win the war by entering when everyone is already spent out after fighting for several years.

5. Everyone likes USA because they helped.

6. Profit.

Looks like history is about to make another turn of the same wheel, but this time WW1 is Russia (+China) <-> Ukraine (+EU). Russia will be rebuilt by China and start another round to get back on EU.

[Woodi]

This. Still it's not that simple anymore...

> 1. Lose all the allies, become isolated.

UK will stay. And 50%+ of Poles, maybe more. Also this time Sounth America won't allow isolation - a) they think promises from China are worth something; b) they may have hopes of looting richer lands, russian-wave style, streaight into bullet streams...

> 2. Allies are less powerful, the world starts another world war

Read: Germans explode again... And just looks like their rulers are owned by external enemies working on exactly that - in what other country womans can be mass ripped by some new arrivals ?? And gov just do censorship... Look like society preparation for unrest...

> 3. Get sneakily attacked

And make some dead americans by attacking something stupid ? Becose stories are important for top star generals...

Also "spinners" already started to be distibuted country wide...

And when Germans attacked Poland in '39 they had lists of "intelligence" - like teachers and priests and now we have social media...

> 4. Win the war by entering when everyone is already spent out after fighting for several years.

Only if US will NOT be attacked at the start...

> 5. Everyone likes USA because they helped.

Certainly not loosing side :)

> 6. Profit.

Yeah. If only US will be on winners side and not in bigger isolation.

But times changed. Nukes. Balistic missiles. Baloons with viruses. Rare earth metals are basic need. Termovision cameras on the ground and satelites (at least in first stage). Mr. Musk saying: Anywhere on Earth, 40 minutes, 9 million :)

And nukes again. Pretty much exclude all owners from bigger conflict...

And history learned - maybe official WW3 part will not pour out of Europe this time. But in this case it won't be a "world" war. Or maybe "war" will be somewhere else...

[danaris]

Except that this time, Trump's starting out by also wrecking the readiness of our military in a number of ways.

Make no mistake: This is not grand strategy. It's grandstanding. It's not part of some 5D chess plan. It's just Trump and his ilk being petty, racist bullies, trying desperately to show that they're "more manly" than anyone else.

[yetihehe]

If the threat comes to your shores, people will heroically start doing "the right thing after all other ways were exhausted". High wages for military factory workers will magically appear because they are heroes etc. Last time it took about 3 years to start mass-producing weapons, it will probably still take same amount this time, but it will be done.