[chris_wot]

If that's the case, then the most sustainable vision gradually devolves into unsustainability.

[thrance]

That's what's happening. Neoliberalism is slowly drifting into fascism, as it has already done multiple times in the past. Maybe what comes after will be actually stable, and not just metastable.

[dudefeliciano]

"democracy leads to fascism leads to war" - just watched the movie Eden by Ron Howard