[jdsully]

At least for the model 3 the front the door releases are more prominent than the actual buttons your supposed to use - newbies often use that the first time they exit.

But the back doors are a different story. For a few years into owning the car I didn't think they had an emergency release at all. Now I know they are hidden in the door molding somewhere but I doubt I'd be able to find them in an emergency let alone a guest that's in the back seat. It does worry me when I have people back there.

[m463]

When the model S was created, they had a better design - open the handle a bit, and you get an electronic release. keep pulling it further and it will mechanically open the door.

Since then, tesla has been relentlessly cost reducing everything. First it was no dashboard on the model 3, and on and on into dangerous design.

Latest 3 has no turn signal stalks. No drive select stalk (it guesses). and lots of critical controls are not physical at all and are hidden in touchscreen menus.

[Zigurd]

It seems as if some design decisions were made with the idea that FSD would actually work "by the end of the year." If manual driving becomes the exceptional case, why not minimize the controls?

[pavel_lishin]

> At least for the model 3 the front the door releases are more prominent than the actual buttons your supposed to use - newbies often use that the first time they exit.

I think this happened to me when my buddy gave me a ride. I used the handle to open the door, and he told me I shouldn't do that since it might damage the car.

On the one hand, it boggles the mind that they would fuck up intuitive functionality that badly, but on the other hand, I am glad that the instinctive action is what you're supposed to do in an emergency.

On the gripping hand, the default action should open the door both regularly, and in case of emergency.

[moogly]

I believe some of the older Model 3s in some regions don't actually have emergency releases in the backseat; you're supposed to lower the seats and escape through the trunk (which does have an inner handle).

[Zigurd]

Is that correct? And if it is, is it safety compliant? I don't think I can release the seat backs in the backseat of my car from within the passenger compartment. You have to open the trunk and pull the release for the seatbacks from there. I can imagine kids wreaking havoc by pulling down the seatbacks from within the car.