[sonofhans]

> I dropped from the Pro Max to the Pro last year because I was tired of how much it hurt when I dropped my phone on my face.

Now this, good people, is a real use case. If it seems like an edge case to you, I guarantee Apple’s design and product people know of — and optimize for — use cases much more rare.

[djtango]

But apparently they don't engineer for smaller hands, one hand usage or fits comfortably in a pocket when you're running

[humpty-d]

I'd rather optimize my $20 running shorts around my $1000 phone than the other way around tbh. No phone is comfortable in the pocket when running though, I used to use an arm strap and more recently just take the watch.

[djtango]

I carry two phones on me and if I run with just my SE it is comfortable enough to run with

But its not about optimisation it's about freedom. I don't enjoy having to baby around a lumbering 6 inch phone. I want my phone to optimise around me being able to not worrying about a brick sagging in my shorts.

[macNchz]

The horizontal rear waistband zipper pocket on Patagonia Strider Pro running shorts genuinely makes my phone not noticeable at all during runs, unlike any other shorts I’ve tried. My experience is limited to smaller phones (6S, 12 Mini) without any cases, though.

[xvector]

They did but no one bought that phone.

[hbn]

> no one

Funny way of spelling "millions of people"

It wasn't enough for Apple's standards and manufacturing optimization. But yes people bought them.

[newman314]

It also hurts when I drop the iPad mini on my face. In fact, I was considering getting a Pro Max to replace both a iPhone Pro and iPad mini combo but figured it might too big of a compromise.

I wonder if anyone has successfully gone down this path.

[joshjob42]

Maybe it's just me but I do semi-regularly have my phone slip out of my hand and hit me in the face while in bed, haha.

[sonofhans]

Oh for real. It sounds stupid, but I’ve done stupider things. And I’ve done them again and again. Any good design needs to account for dumb monkeys :)