[hyperadvanced]

OTOH, Cybertruck is one of the only original car designs in modern memory. It’s dumb as hell, but I like it. That said, I have no idea who it’s for, I wouldn’t buy one. But I respect them for designing such a ridiculous vehicle, and for it actually being able to sell, albeit somewhat poorly compared to expectations.

I say all of this as a recent $TSLA bear with a healthy short position.

[adgjlsfhk1]

It's original in the way that a toddler drawing a car in crayon on your wall is original.

[kube-system]

Yes, and there used to be a time when other automakers did crazy stuff too. Sometimes they sold well and sometimes they didn't. But the variety and creativity was nicer than what we have currently on the market, which is a bunch of midsize SUVs, which aren't good at being an SUV, aren't good at being a car, and all look like jellybeans.

[tim333]

I was quite enthused about the cybertruck when it was announced. A lot of it was using the same material as starship and I was quite into the multiplanetary stuff. Since then with Musk doing nazi salutes and DOGE I'd be somewhat embarrassed to have one.

[bdangubic]

shorting TSLA is never smart because TSLA investors are not driven by any rhyme or reason. Elon is the greatest salesman to ever live and people have been buying his sh*t for decade+ now. if TSLA was a reasonable company investment-wise I would mortgage my house to short the shit out of it :)

[gavinsyancey]

Yeah -- I am of the opinion that TSLA is rather obviously highly overvalued, but the market can stay insane for longer than I can stay solvent so there isn't anything I can do to act on that.

[hyperadvanced]

Yep, that’s why I clarified that I am a recent bear. I think that in the next year funds will reevaluate them and we will see at least a 20% drop in price.

[alextingle]

It'll never drop by 20%. Either it keeps on growing, or it collapses.

Given that they apparently have no new models in development, I'd expect the latter.

- Their roadmap is just updates to their existing line-up, and vapourware crap that relies on their "Full Self Driving" somehow magically starting to work.

[conductr]

I kind of like it. It's one where the pictures and renderings look cool but IRL it looks like they messed it up. However, I've seen a few modded Cybertrucks with bigger wheels and tires and a wrap that actually make me think it doesn't look to bad. Concerns over build quality keep me away from Tesla as a whole, it looks too cheap to me and I've seen too many videos where things are just falling off.

[philistine]

> It's one where the pictures and renderings look cool but IRL it looks like they messed it up.

That's because they did. The initial plan was for the plates to double as the frame of the car. That's how they could have achieved the seamless look of the renders. Turns out they couldn't make it work for whatever reason and the plates are just on top of the frame.

[protocolture]

I love the visual design. But the performance looks terrible. Meanwhile china is making utes that look pretty bland but perform amazing for the price.

[overfeed]

> ...one of the only original car designs in modern memory. ... I respect them for designing such a ridiculous vehicle

Based on the criteria, you might like the Fiat Multipla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Multipla

[JKCalhoun]

It's dumb as hell but I don't like it.

But I know what you're saying. I give it credit for being out there when nothing else in the auto industry is. Sadly though, its failure will likely further entrench the rest of the industry.

[strken]

I thought it was a neat concept but I'm surprised they took it directly into mass production. I thought they'd take the design language and make something a bit more mainstream with it.

The matte steel body and the unbroken slope on the front are cool, if impractical. There's something funny about the tray and the featureless non-grille though.