[jleyank]

If they really want to address illegals they should penalize the companies that use them rather than individual workers. Hell, they might be working with companies to stage deport theatre and then looking away when they restock. Like they argue with drugs, remove the demand and the problem will decrease.

[jibe]

"US to target more businesses" - they are!

[A4ET8a8uTh0_v2]

I think what parent is referring to is the simple fact that the management making the decisions to hire illegal immigrants are rarely ( as in effectively never ) brought on any kind of charges despite it being ostensibly against the law. What we end up with a system, where companies get highly malleable ( and replaceable ) workforce afraid to raise a complaint and zero consequences for people making the actual decisions.

edit: A cynic would argue that the system is in place is working exactly as designed.

[Guvante]

What specific action did the US government take against Hyundai here?

Or did they just gut their workforce and claim that was "enough of a penalty".

Historically the US has implicitly condoned these illegal actions by employers by refusing to ever take action against them.

There has only ever been action taken against employees, who sometimes aren't even meaningfully informed that they are breaking the law. (Certainly they often know but the employer always knows)

[ivewonyoung]

> What specific action did the US government take against Hyundai here?

There are levels of plausible deniability that need to be pierced for actions to stand up in a court of law. Hyundai has already claimed these workers were not employees and were subcontractors or sub-subcontractors. Just the negative press and pressure from the SK govt may do a lot in the future for Korean carmakers to try and do better checking on workers working in their factories.

[Guvante]

And how is that different from previous situations?

I responded to someone claiming a difference in action was taken.

You responded with "well that is hard" as if to reclassify action to include previous actions.

[ivewonyoung]

The previous situation being that such raids didn't happen, at least not on this scale. So Hyundai had zero pressure to change anything, not even bad publicity or interruption to car production via 400 workers being detained.

[Guvante]

We just didn't raid places.

We instead took the much cheaper option of asking them to stop and in most cases they complied to avoid legal action.

This also created bad publicity and interruption.

The raid serves no purpose but to have video of people.

[jandrese]

To be clear those business won’t be punished except for having to find more workers.