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by bigyabai 281 days ago
> Social media platforms are at such a scale in the modern day that they are essentially the public square

This is a ridiculous assertion.

The local Costco is "at such a scale in the modern day" that it, too, is essentially a public square. It's still private property, though. If you show up in Aisle 6 trying to convert people to Mormonism, a Costco employee will ask you to leave and stop harassing their customers. Yes, the same principle applies to Twitter, Facebook, X, Truth Social and Instagram.
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petralithic 281 days ago
> The local Costco is "at such a scale in the modern day" that it, too, is essentially a public square.

But it's not at such a scale though. It does not have one location with billions of members.

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bigyabai 281 days ago
Okay, McDonalds then. "Billions served"

What gives you the right to leverage their private property as your soapbox? Because people on the sidewalk won't listen, and that hurts your feelings? They have a business, if you are using your speech in any way to obstruct the conduct of their thoroughfare then they can have you ejected. The cops will not listen to your tirade against multinational burger tyrants, they'll drop you off at the drunk tank. Your speech will never be unconditionally protected, not online or in real life.

As always, refer to the relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1357/

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petralithic 281 days ago
It's not McDonald's either, a singular location does not serve billions. The difference between a physical and virtual location is one of scale. As for your other paragraph, the point is that these corporations have gotten so large and people depend on them so much that being banned on them is essentially akin to being exiled from the ability to have free speech in modern society, whatever restrictions you want to reasonably put on them. What is the alternative you want people to use if, like Nepal, the government bans social media platforms, that I have not already addressed?

With your linking of that xkcd, it's clear you're misunderstanding my point about legal vs natural rights, as I stated initially.

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behringer 281 days ago
True but you can speak out in front of the Costco. There's no equivalent for fb.
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fecal_henge 281 days ago
I think they also own the land out in front of the shop.
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davorak 281 days ago
Many places in the USA, but not everywhere, have sidewalks around the parking lot that are going to be publicly owned so you can set up with signs and a megaphone there.
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