[komali2]

Imo Nazism was doomed from the start since fascist imperialist ideologies will inevitably fail as they challenge the sovereignty of more and more countries. Going to war against the world doesn't seem like a winner's bet to me.

But also they were doomed before the Russian invasion since they were out of oil - isn't that what triggered the invasion in the first place?

[vintermann]

Any particular incarnation of fascist imperialist ideology is doomed, but they can last longer than you, do a lot of damage on the way down, and in a couple of decades the revival effort will be on among people who think the reason they failed was that they were too soft-hearted and not decisive enough. Even non-fascists regularly buy into the idea that brutality works as long as you're fully committed to it.

[baud147258]

> they were doomed before the Russian invasion since they were out of oil

Didn't they were receiving oil (and other raw materials) from the URSS beforehand?

edit: found a figure on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_economic...

I don't know if that'd cover the war needs in oil of Germany, but once they had started a war with the soviet, they had no choice but to try to get to the Caucasus for the oil.

[carlosjobim]

Most modern nations have adopted national socialism as their form of government by now, haven't they?