[ramon156]

One of the reasons I don't use Ubuntu/debian is because it's just too damn slow with updates. I'm noticing that to this day it's still an issue.

Yes I could use flatpack on ubuntu, however I feel like this is partly something Ubuntu/Debian should provide out-of-the-box

[alyandon]

LTS in general being slow to uptake new versions of software is a feature not a bug. It gives predictability at the cost of having to deal with older versions of software.

With Ubuntu at least, some upstreams publish official PPAs so that you aren't stuck on the rapidly aging versions that Canonical picks when they cut an LTS release.

Debian I found out recently has something similar now via "extrepo".

[skydhash]

I use debian specifically for things to be kept the same. Once I got things setup, I don’t really want random updates to come and break things.

[rsyring]

Ubuntu is committed to the Snap ecosystem and there is a lot of software that you can get from a snap if you need it to be evergreen.