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by BoredPositron 293 days ago
If it's a seperate t&c and license agreement for the api it's even easier for them to disable services. You are making these statement with so much confidence but the real world works the opposite. Apple throttles iPhones, Google kills services pair of free. Samsung pushes ads on their smarttvos. I think their lawyers are right and you misunderstand the law you are citing otherwise the world would be a better place :)

I don't like it either but it is what it is.
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zettabomb 293 days ago
Just because it happens and the companies face no consequences does not mean that it is legal. The problem is that the lawyers aren't getting involved at all because no one bothers to sue, due to the difficulty and (usually) relatively small amount of money involved.
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BoredPositron 293 days ago
That's the consumer protection you are talking about? Seems like no protection at all. You still haven't proven that it's illegal at all btw.
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zettabomb 293 days ago
From https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/gua...

>You always have the right to a minimum 2-year guarantee if the digital content or service turns out to be faulty, not as advertised or not working as expected. If the supplier cannot fix the content or service within a reasonable time, free of charge and without significant inconvenience to you, you can ask for a reduction in the price or to terminate the contract.

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BoredPositron 293 days ago
And how does this apply here? The service isn't even killed like Rossmann blurbs in the video. Did you read the offer or the license of it because it looks more and more like you did not. Especially the faulty or does not work as advertised is plain wrong. The works as expected part would be true in your case but just because you had false pretenses to begin with. To take your words "It looks like you have no idea what you are talking about." Sorry but even companies have rights.

https://customer.bmwgroup.com/pm2/pm-document-service/api/v1...

https://customer.bmwgroup.com/pm2/pm-document-service/api/v1...

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zettabomb 293 days ago
>And how does this apply here?

How does it not? The service was advertised with API access previously, and now that access has been severely limited in the middle of the service period.

>Did you read what's the offer or the license of it because it looks more and more like you did not.

I read it just fine, and I understand it just fine.Clearly you have a different interpretation, one which I strongly disagree with.

>To take your words "It looks like you have no idea what you are talking about."

I never said that, so now you're just making stuff up. No more point in discussing the matter if you cannot stay grounded in reality.

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BoredPositron 293 days ago
We certainly have different opinions. You still have 100 API calls every 24 hours. Sorry but I would see it as abusive if my API would be hammered with over 300-1000 requests per day for the status of a damn car like some in the GitHub comments were doing.

It probably was someone else in the so sorry for the misunderstanding about the no idea stuff.

tbh I am over it there is no reasoning with people that actively want to abuse systems so they can rice their home assistant dashboard and cry about getting rate limited so they can only update their car status every 15 minutes if they want 24 hours coverage. It's not normal use. hf gl

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