[Spooky23]

I think it’s coming soon. The data center demand is just one aspect. In New York, a combination of half baked policy to go carbon free by 2030, and 100% EV a few years later, combined with insane political decisions (Gov Cuomo decommissioning the nuclear plant that supplied 20% of NYC), and the black swan event of Trump starting a trade war with Canada (Quebec is the best source of electricity) is making electric delivery rates alone increase 30%.

On the gas side, we’re both forcing ratepayers to spend billions on conversion from low to high pressure gas mains AND prohibiting new gas service.

The environmental lobby is so dumb and ineffective - the public will be demanding that coal come back.

[righthand]

The policy is intended to fail. There will be another wave of failed policy under the guise of “getting it right”. Because if you set the dates for 2050/2060 whenever the state is able to convert over, then businesses won’t do anything until 2050/2060. The most effective method forward is going to be continuously failed but enforceable policy to legally push industries and people into cleaner energy.

Agree that Cuomo decommissioning the plant was DUMB.

[const_cast]

> On the gas side, we’re both forcing ratepayers to spend billions on conversion from low to high pressure gas mains AND prohibiting new gas service.

On the gas side, Trump's one BBB greatly increased the caps on natural gas exports.

The reality is that the companies extracting NG are not going to be giving it to Americans, they're going to sell it abroad and rake in way more money.

Which would maybe be fine... if we also weren't currently (and severely) artificially limiting the supply of renewables. Um, oops. There's nothing left.

All of our lobbies are fucking stupid.

[fibers]

Why coal and not shale? Is this not cope?