[mdhb]

At no point have I ever gotten the impression that you are even remotely open to seeing other points of view so it’s a bit hard to take the moralistic tone of the brave defender of the web part seriously. I think you just want to yell at people.

[troupo]

Web Components have been in development for 14 years. If you think this is the first discussion of web components, you clearly haven't been paying attention.

All there is to say was said years ago. Today it should be enough to know that, for example, "form associated custom elements cannot be a submit button" issue was opened 6 years ago, in 2019: https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/814

In 2022 web component group report mentions it in passing: https://w3c.github.io/webcomponents-cg/2022.html#concerns-10

That issue is still open.

Or that web components breaking ARIA was known at least 2019: https://x.com/sarahmei/status/1198069119897047041 and this will not be fixed for another 4-5 years at least.

Imagine if any web framework had issues like that.

That doesn't even begin to cover things like "now every useful spec has to be acutely aware of Shadow DOM shenanigans" which delayed any number of specs like scoped CSS etc

[mdhb]

It’s just like an LLM stuck on a loop. It’s just years and years of making the exact same comments, not responding to any counter arguments and then demanding that people take you seriously.