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by pants2 290 days ago
Sure, OpenAI shouldn't have had a 4o sycophancy issue, but who would've guessed that a "be nice to the user" fine-tune would turn in to a murder-suicide?

I think OpenAI is only now beginning to realize how connected some people are to their product and that the way their models behave has a huge impact.

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The problem was obvious a long time ago, and if I was better at searching I could probably find a comment I made around GPT-3 having system prompts to make it more like a human, which has (at least) 2 effects:

1) Alters your trust value for correctness. I would assume some trust it more because it sounds aware like a human and is trained on a lot of data, and some trust it less because a robot should just output the data you asked for.

2) When asking questions, turning the temperature up was meant to improve variability and being more "lifelike", which of course would mean not return the most probable tokens during inference, meaning (even) less accuracy.

A third one being confidently outputting answers even when none exist was of course a more fundamental issue with the technology, but was absolutely made worse by having an extra page of useless flowery output.

I can't say I predicted this specific effect, but it was very obvious from the get-go that there was no upside to those choices.

The whole reason to test things is because these types of systems will behave in ways people didn't expect. While people may not have been able to guess that it would turn out exactly this way, that's the whole reason why they should have actually tested for unknown consequences.

Instead it sounds like they rushed to release this as quickly as possible, skipping all sorts of testing, and people died as a result.