[kube-system]

You do own the physical device and you can do whatever you want with it. You can take it apart and tinker with it however you please.

If you don't like the software that they do or don't deliver to you over the internet, that is something entirely different.

[reactordev]

They didn’t deliver software. A 3rd party did. Stop making straw-man arguments to defend their actions. If the app was pulled from the normal App Store, fine, that’s Apple’s prerogative. But a 3rd party store? The app signing shouldn’t be used a weapon against software “you don’t like”.

[kube-system]

Apple revoked notarization -- which is delivered as a service from their computers.

If you don't like that the phone connects to Apple's servers and uses the data delivered, then you shouldn't have bought a product that works that way. Or alternatively, you can take it apart and change it. Nobody is stopping you.

But Apple doesn't owe you an ongoing service that works exactly the way you like just because you bought one of their devices.

[RedComet]

You cannot (generally) install and run apps that aren't (recently) notarized, though. They do owe the service inasmuch as they require it for installing and running apps.

[kube-system]

Yeah, the OS preinstalled on the phone functions that way. But this is not in opposition to your ownership of the physical device. You can do still do whatever you want with the phone. Grab a hot plate and pull off the NAND, chuck the whole thing in a blender, anything -- knock yourself out.

[RedComet]

By analogy, if food was sold with poison in it, "hey man, you bought it, just remove it if you don't like it. not a chemist? crack a book buddy". And now imagine you had no means of producing your own food and all food sold contained poison.

If unlocking an iPhone and running e.g. AOSP on it were feasible, people would be doing it. And you know that. Your argument is disingenuous.

[kube-system]

Food with poison in it is both criminally and civilly illegal, and it puts peoples lives in danger.

Equating something like this to closed source software is why some people don’t take FOSS seriously.

You might think I was being facetious, but I’m being completely serious: the only way for FOSS to compete is by producing good products and bringing them to market. If FOSS advocates keep trying to fight some software licensing culture war instead of producing good technology, they’re not going to change anyone’s mind. 99.999% of people do not give two shits about a software license, they just want to use a damn phone.