[nomilk]

This is awesome. Over the past four years I went from Sublime Text, to VS Code, to a 'dual IDE' setup (neovim and cursor).

I hear rubymine has the best support for documentation and source code lookup capabilities (vitally important).

Curious of its AI capabilities; how much of a step down would it be going from cursor to rubymine? I guess it could be used stand-alone purely for its documentation/source capabilities, but 3 IDEs feels like overkill.

[onionisafruit]

It’s a bit of a step down from cursor and vscode in terms of AI integration, but I still prefer my jetbrains ides (goland and rubymine). GitHub broke most aspects of their extension for jetbrains last week and didn’t seem to notice. That wouldn’t have happened for vscode (they might break it but they’ll also be in a hurry to fix it). I haven’t tried jetbrains own AI though. It might be fantastic for all I know.

[snuxoll]

It's different, I wouldn't necessarily say it's worse than Copilot, and I have been happy making the switch given my usage is included with the Jetbrains All Products subscription I already pay.

If you're expecting inline completion that reads your comments and shits out a fully formed function like Copilot, you'll be pretty annoyed - but that's been a positive for me as the completion doesn't constantly try to get in my way and suggest things 10 steps ahead of me. I'm much happier with my assistant letting my continue to steer when I'm actively coding, and instead just focusing on reducing keystrokes.

Chat works great, and I have a whole host of models from multiple providers to pick from. If I actually do want to have it generate some garbage for me, do code review, or simple refactors then I'll whip it out and it does the trick. Being better integrated into the IntelliJ Platform, actually applying changes from the chat window works more often than Copilot did in my experience.

And then there's Junie, which also benefits greatly from integration into the IDE. Since the PSI syntax tree you get from native IntelliJ language plugins gives the IDE a lot of data on whether code is actually valid or not (missing references, hallucinated packages or standard library functions, straight up invalid syntax, etc), you're not relying solely on tests to make sure the end result of a task you set the agent off to do is actually correct. I can come back after asking her to do a large-scale refactor, or implement some (part of a) feature, and generally be confident I'm not wandering into a bunch of garbage.

If you already pay for an All Products Pack license you've got JetBrains AI Pro included, if you pay for a single IDE from them and are already at the 3-year continuity discount then the cost of upgrading to the All Products Pack and getting the AI Pro license is a couple USD difference (depending on the specific product, could be cheaper). Really not much for anybody to lose trying it out, at the least.

[ackfoobar]

> Junie, which also benefits greatly from integration into the IDE.

That is very plausible, I really want it to be true as a fan of IntelliJ and Kotlin. I used Cursor at work and tried out Junie on a hobby project. Maybe it's the different niche, maybe I'm more used to Cursor for chat bot workflows, but I got a personal Cursor license after trying out Junie.

[onionisafruit]

That sounds nice. You’ve talked me into trying it out.

[noone_youknow]

It’s a very noticeable step down from cursor in terms of AI integration IMO, but also a huge step up in almost everything else.

For a while I was running both cursor and RubyMine in tandem and switching between as needed, but lately I’ve been using Claude code for most stuff, in a RubyMine terminal and I hardly miss cursor at all.

[im_slvr]

Can you please share your workflow? I am kinda on the crossroad. Github copilot cuts the context window for the models while new Jetbrains AI Assistant pricing model is doubtful. AI Assistant seems to be much better integrated lately than the Github Copilot.

On the other hand - properly used Claude Code is very nice. Long story short: I am thinking about reducing AI usage to the CC only and attempt to use it as a chat assistant too. Plus maybe subscribing to minimal package from Jetbrains or Copilot for some nice commit generations and occasional chats with other models.

[AstroBen]

Depends what your most used part of Cursor is - from my view the only thing Rubymine is missing is the next edit prediction which I've heard they're working on currently

The agent, chat mode and full line completion all work well