[soanvig]

I hate sales people.

This blogpost describes sales strategy as obvious as it is annoying, just like described seller-push. Written in a fashion of trying to sell me something.

Just stop manipulating for a second, ok? But I guess the profession would not exist then.

[halfcat]

I see what you’re doing. Going after that anti-sales dollar. That’s a good market. Very smart.

[soanvig]

Haha it's just all the sales people I met were exactly kind of people I hate, which made me hate sales entirely. There is something special about them: fake smile, gestures etc even in simple face2face conversations

[smackeyacky]

Whether you like it or not, somebody selling keeps most of us in a job. Mostly I’m a software developer but I’m in a role now that requires selling. The simple truth is that most people need some kind of push to get them to make a decision. Whether that’s a needs based thing as described in “buyer-pull” or a couple of little harmless manipulations doesn’t really matter in the end. As long as the customer got what they wanted it’s mutually beneficial.

And bonus: you get to keep a job sheltered away from the grotty truth of how the money is made that funds your salary.

[soanvig]

Unfortunately my company needs sales, because other companies have sales. That's a nuclear weapon situation. Sales gives a leverage, pushes company ahead of competition. So the competition have to have sales as well.

I find this situation toxic, but that's just sad truth of the world.