[FirmwareBurner]

Can you prove those numbers lie? Because then what's the point of science and statistics? Should we just argue based on vibes then? Where does that get us when we start the conversation with the assumption that all data is always false?

[fragmede]

Someone's always trying to sell you something. Just because they use numbers, doesn't mean you should necessarily buy what they're pushing.

[FirmwareBurner]

What are those numbers trying to sell you?

[fragmede]

I don't know. Are they in the room with us now? Can you point at them?