[fsflover]

> It isn't hard to understand what was meant.

At least two independent people understood you in the same way. So just dismissing it isn't productive.

> PITA. If you sandbox apps you have to restrict what they can access. There is no way around this.

This has nothing to do with freedom though.

> You will need to give it access at least to your file-system.

On Qubes, you copy-paste with ctrl+shift+v/c and nothing is shared unless you actively do it yourself. It becomes a habit very quickly (my daily driver). Sharing files is a bit harder (you send them from VM to VM), but it's not as hard as you want it to look.

[extraisland]

> At least two independent people understood you in the same way. So just dismissing it isn't productive.

Two people that we are aware of.

BTW, I often encounter this when talking to other techies. People go to the most ridiculous extremes to be contrarian. Often they don't even know they are doing. I know because I used to engage in this behaviour.

So I feel like I am well withing my rights to dismiss it.

[fsflover]

I didn't say you weren't within your rights. I said it's counter-productive for the discussion.

[extraisland]

I think it is counter productive to bring up ridiculous examples, which was obviously not what I meant.

[fsflover]

Both things can be counterproductive simultaneously.