[Temporary_31337]

What is the chemistry and expected lifetime of the batterries? They are saying this is for sustainable energy future but it looks like it's using natural gas (not sustainable) powered energy to charge up Lithium(?) batteries that will need to be replaced every n years (also not sustainable). Which part of this facility makes it more sustainable?

[chippiewill]

Why would they charge up with natural gas?

The UK often has excess wind energy, and for Tilbury in particular that problem is set to grow as National Grid are building out massive grid capacity from the North Sea wind farms through Tilsbury

[ViewTrick1002]

Generally LFP with cycles in the at least 5000 range.

They are pure arbiters of the market. Filling up when it makes sense and delivering when it makes sense. Which sometimes means buying expensive fossil gas powered electricity to sell it even higher priced later.

But what this means is that at that ”later” the peaking plant that originally has been used did not have to start and consumers enjoy cheaper electricity.

But what they do is extend the time renewables deliver. In for example California storage has reduced fossil gas usage by 40% in recent years.

[Hilift]

A similar project in Australia used Tesla megapack batteries, which are lithium ion.

Another form of stored energy uses thermal. A large scale project to plug ~50,000 idle and abandoned oil wells in Kern County, California.

Probably worth noting that for states and utilities, consumer solar without batteries has become a liability and doesn't scale up. So effectively, all future consumer solar installations in California will likely have batteries. So there will be batteries at the consumer point, and centralized large scale battery farms like this one to address peak demand and prevent situations where blackouts may need to occur.

https://eepower.com/news/engineers-repurpose-oil-wells-as-so...