[sverhagen]

Do you want locked down hardware, or are you accepting the locked down hardware because you don't care about it either way, but are otherwise happy (very happy perhaps even) with what those platforms offer? But why can't we have both?

[marak830]

This. Abtinf's solution changes how I can use hardware. But me being able to install what I want does not change theirs.

You guys keep not installing what you don't want - that's fine and your choice - but don't remove mine for no reason.

[sesky]

This is not true. A walled garden only works well when it applies universally.

When app developers have the ability to bypass the walled garden, they have many incentives to do so ranging from financial to wishing to circumvent scrutiny. This will include an increasing amount of popular and useful apps, decreasing the options available to those who want to stay in the walled garden. For less technical users they will blindly follow instructions to leave the walled garden.

You are removing the choice of users who want a walled garden by supporting legislation forcing these ecosystems open.

[littlecosmic]

Alternatively it just puts pressure on the walled garden to let people do what that want to do safely within the walls so they don’t have to go through the escape hatch.

[abtinf]

We have both.

But the other side insists we only have open platforms.