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by plemer 298 days ago
I’m not in those communities anymore, but is stem separation not legit useful?
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Kinda? The biggest thing is that it's been done by so many other places already that it's sort of a waste of time to spend any time on it when there's already a number of other services. It doesn't really fit into the rest of the design and purpose of Bitwig, so it would really just be a gimmick, or at least seen as one by the core community.

Also, they're sort of an legal-ethics dilemma in that The only time you would really use stim separation is if you don't have the stems already, and therefore almost certainly don't have clearance and can't really use them for anything commercial. Probably not as big of a concern but definitely something to consider.

Really the big one is that a lot the creative online community and especially the kind of community around Bitwig has a pretty strong opinion against generative AI, which includes things like stem separation.

Still strange to advertise it as a feature. Only reason I can see essentially would be virtue signaling to people who are afraid or mad at AI
It wasn't advertised by the company. The post is a third party reporting news about Bitwig and inserted its own opinion.

I've never actually seen Bitwig the company refer to "AI" in any capacity, probably be cause it's not relevant to what they do or make, so no "virtue signalling".

The third party reporting site is maybe the one doing the virtual signaling.
I think it is, before it was built into Logic I had a little script setup that would use Meta Demucs. I would use it on my own tracks so I could remix (especially old ones which I had no stems for). It’s also great for sampling and experimentation
I'd expect most cases of stem separation to be handled well by applying specialized software to source music, exporting the stems as audio files, and importing them as individual tracks or samples in the DAW. Are there workflows that benefit from integrating stem separation in a DAW?
It's like a lot of other feature; ease of use. Imagine your DAW only supports import of wav files, you could argue that there are already services / programs that convert * to .wav, so no need to implement that. But if it's build in not only is it one less program to install, it's also convenient.