[monooso]

> The only reason PHP still exists is because of shared hosting companies and Wordpress.

Unfortunately I can't think of anything constructive to say about this nonsense.

> Today, it’s so easy to run JavaScript, I can build a basic jsx site in under an hour, just like I can with PHP and includes.

You assume people agree that it's preferable to work in JavaScript.

[phplovesong]

Sadly this is true. From PHP websites 95% is wordpress/drupal/<cmstool>

[k_roy]

And still nobody outside of Meta cares about hack.

The niche I think PHP had back in the day has largely been supplanted by Python.

Maybe it’s better now, but after moving on from it to basically anything else after a 25 year career, I don’t miss it.

[monooso]

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by mentioning Hack.

At this point it's diverged from PHP to the point that it's basically a different language, is (IIRC) actually slower than PHP 8, and the HHVM doesn't even support PHP any more.

As such, it's not a huge surprise that relatively few people outside of Meta give it much attention.

I also moved on from PHP several years ago, and don't miss it. That doesn't mean I don't recognise that there are still perfectly legitimate reasons to choose it.

[k_roy]

Yep.

And meta/hack is probably the other huge mainstay of PHP outside of what the person you responded to said. And hack with HHVM was supposed to be the panacea for PHP

Just saying.

What people used to use PHP for tasks, has largely been replaced by Python.

[timeon]

> And still nobody outside of Meta cares about hack.

Because everyone is OK with PHP. I'm not even using it directly but most of the web runs on it.

[phplovesong]

Not PHP, but wordpress.