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by jiggy2011 5032 days ago
This is pretty dumb and reflects the increasing mentality of "it's like X with the useful functionality removed".

Email is nothing like twitter at all, twitter became popular because it allowed celebrities and the like to share their thoughts with their fans without feeling like they had to maintain a longform blog.

Email is used for 2 way communication, yes companies like to build email lists and use it for push marketing but that's usually seen more as a nuisance to email users.

If somebody is going to charge me in order to send them an email the message I read into that is "My time is so much more valuable that if yours that if you want me to read what you say then you better make it worth my while".

And sometimes emails need to be long, am I supposed to maintain 2 separate email accounts?

In reality, legit commercial mass mail usually does have to pay to send because if you want good deliverability you are probably using mailchimp or a similar service.

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This is pretty dumb and reflects the increasing mentality of "it's like X with the useful functionality removed".

I think there is something to this idea. It's wrong to call it "email" though.

Email is nothing like twitter at all, twitter became popular because it allowed celebrities and the like to share their thoughts with their fans without feeling like they had to maintain a longform blog.

This would be something to get brief, easily digestible feedback from their fans. Right now, this either means going through lots of messages, or relying on social media to filter the message for you, but the former takes time or money, and the latter results in only the loudest voices being heard. The proposal above would cause people to filter and edit themselves.

Email is used for 2 way communication, yes companies like to build email lists and use it for push marketing but that's usually seen more as a nuisance to email users.

You just contradicted yourself here. Email is versatile enough to be used in many ways. That's both the best and worst quality of it.

If somebody is going to charge me in order to send them an email the message I read into that is "My time is so much more valuable that if yours that if you want me to read what you say then you better make it worth my while".

Yes, that is the message such a service would have to send. (But in a more subliminal way.)

And sometimes emails need to be long, am I supposed to maintain 2 separate email accounts?

This is precisely why calling this "email" is wrong. It would be like the counterpart of twitter, going the opposite way. It would be the multiplexer to the Twitter demux. It would not be email, however users could possibly access it through email.

Maybe call it "Faninn" "Feedforward" or "Feedgram?" I would allow messages to be marked private or public, with the public messages appearing on a white-labeled website, subject to a reddit or HN style upvote system.

"In reality, legit commercial mass mail usually does have to pay to send"

The point is that they don't pay you. It's an externality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Externality

I don't really see how paying me would help though.

Either I want to read your email or I don't, paying me $1 a time to read all my viagra spam isn't going to help anyone.

Plus what happens if I really want to send you an email but I don't want to hand my credit card info over to whatever payment provider you use is?

I don't agree that twitter popularity lies on how easy it is to publish on it but in the fact that it establishes a reading contract. I know exactly how much time reading a single tweet will take me so I can read them in many circumstances. That's why I think apps like TwitLonger make no sense.

The point is not to remove a functionality but to further constrain a contract (and enforce it).

The problem is that you are trying to enforce it on top of an existing platform with a use case for which it doesn't really make sense.

If you really don't want to receive long emails from strangers you can always add a filter in your mail setup that deletes any email over 500 chars long from people not in your address book with an autoreply that says "I don't read anything over 500 chars long".