[SilverElfin]

> Noem said the hack threatened "the entire Department and the nation as a whole" but at the same time said that "no American citizens were directly impacted." She added: "No sensitive data was extracted from any DHS networks."

What does that even mean. It is either a problem or it isn’t.

Also interesting to read is the FEMA Katrina Declaration, linked to from this article:

https://www.standupforscience.net/fema-katrina-declaration

I have no doubt that there is some waste in all these agencies but the magnitude of change is so big for such a short time. Even if the leaders were excellent, they would need more time to understand the situation and make good choices. Zooming in on this breach, without more details, I find it hard to believe that these 23 people were the cause (versus some larger issue with the organization).

[mikeyouse]

Yeah the ‘presumption of regularity’ has long since expired for this administration. Nobody needs to pretend that the firings had anything to do with some nebulous security breach. It’s obvious they’re pretextual - the only question is why they were actually fired which the inevitable lawsuits will surely discover.