[kentm]

People who can utilize the tooling to process petabytes of data efficiently aren’t the ones that are catching flack. The people I’m thinking of basically run massive inefficient SQL queries and then throw their hands up when it runs slowly or gets an oom error. They don’t even know how to do an explain plan. And if you try to explain to them things like partitioning, indexes, sketches, etc then they are not able to comprehend and argue that it’s not their job to learn, and that it’s the “proper engineers” job to scale the processing.

[CalRobert]

My boss at a large company years ago wrote a query for daily stats and then proceeded to run it on the entire event history every day for the life of the company just to get DAU, etc. The solution was to just keep paying more for redshift until the bill was a few million a year. Suggestions to fix his crap were met with disdain.

That job taught me a lot.

[itsoktocry]

>And if you try to explain to them things like partitioning, indexes, sketches, etc then they are not able to comprehend and argue that it’s not their job to learn, and that it’s the “proper engineers” job to scale the processing.

Make up a person and attack him, literal strawman. You sound pleasant to work with.

[kentm]

I’m referring to actual people I have worked and interacted with so no not made up.

They’re not engineers and shouldn’t have been labeled data engineers. They have some other value to the company, presumably, but trying to repackage them as data engineers does cause issues. That’s the topic of this thread.