[PaulHoule]

I've heard people say "people want vehicles the size of tanks" in discussions like this but I've never heard "I want a vehicle the size of a tank" although that person exists.

It seems like a different world but before the pandemic if you wanted to buy a compact car you would go to the dealer and find out they don't have any new ones, you'll have to settle for used, they say factory washed out in a flood. Well they have 100 SUVs made in the same factory lined up that nobody wants to buy that are $7000 off.

[murderfs]

From a survey of Canadians in 2022 [1]: "We find that SUV drivers view their vehicles as functionally superior to smaller cars in terms of safety, space for lifestyle, handling, and fun. Symbolically, SUVs are seen as a “status symbol” that can communicate a number of images, such as being “successful”. SUV drivers are more likely to see these vehicles as common and “approved” in their social networks, and tend to downplay any negative societal impacts such as increased GHG emissions. Across respondents intending to buy an SUV, willingness-to-downsize to a smaller vehicle was highest under financial incentives (for buying or using a car) or disincentives (for buying or using an SUV)."

I personally don't understand how you could consider an SUV better for handling or fun, but denying people's views doesn't make them not hold them.

1: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S22146...

[dfee]

> I personally don't understand how you could consider an SUV better for handling or fun

This is an imagination problem. There are certain categories of automotive use cases which SUVs are designed to be superior. In those, being in a vehicle designed to handle better at the task is better fun!

For example, taking an SUV off road.

[potato3732842]

>For example, taking an SUV off road.

Not even. Buying thrift store furniture is a wildly different experience in a modern crossover than it is a sedan or even an old station wagon.

[seanmcdirmid]

I drove some gravel Forest Service roads in the past in a sub-compact (who knew the only way up from Oregon to Seattle was via USF roads if you didn't want to take the express way?), and I definitely wish I had more clearance for that use case. If I lived in the woods, an SUV might make sense.

We have more sedans here in the city (Seattle) because our parking space frankly are too small, and even then I see way too many SUVs trying to cram into a parking space labelled compact.

[dfee]

I want a vehicle the size of a tank.

Or at least, a vehicle the size of a Hummer H1. But, would be willing to try out a Marauder, because they look like they’re a blast.

I had tiny sports cars growing from 16-30 years old. They were fun in a different way.

1. https://www.topgear.com/car-news/modified/behold-500bhp-295k...

2. https://www.motor1.com/news/27190/marauder-armored-vehicle-f...

[tstrimple]

I have a family of five and we’ve managed with a single vehicle for basically the last 20 years. So I’ve been in minivan mode a long time now. Recently I went car shopping with my son and it’s crazy to me how much more limited sight lines are in the smaller sedans. You have to be much more active leaning and looking around. I don’t know that I need a tank, but I absolutely love the minivan for driver visibility.

[Spivak]

The data speaks for itself. Honda offers the civic and accord and the CRV outsells them both. SUVs are much higher utility than a sedan for pretty much the same price and same gas mileage.

[eldaisfish]

the data does indeed speak for itself. Honda's Civic and Accord are among the top four selling models for Honda in the USA.

[vostok]

As someone who lives in a city, I'm not sure what I'd do with a car that is smaller than a tank. If it's a small car then it's probably for local trips and super inconvenient to park / re-park / etc. I want a big car to comfortably fit my family, our outdoor toys, and maybe even tow something.

Even if I lived outside a city, what do I gain by driving a smaller car? Going from 35 to 55 mpg? Parking is plentiful and equally convenient for big cars these days.

[hnthroay22312]

most people want all those things but reality they tow something maybe once a year, that's marketing working.

[Scoundreller]

Pareto principle is strong when it comes to towing.

[kanbara]

meanwhile the entire world from japan to the uk to brazil to south africa are fine to go grocery shopping and take their family out in their normal sized car. in the city.

cities are better with fewer cars and better public transit. and you dont need a tank. i didnt know your viewpoint even existed.