[jgalt212]

> As energy costs rise,

That's a big if. And even more so if everyone moves to EVs, then gas demand goes down and it ICEs become even cheaper to run. Ultimately, we need a carbon tax and no more EV credits. What did EV credits do for us? It created Elon.

[platevoltage]

There was probably a time when vacuum tubes were extremely cheap for audio enthusiasts that kept their tube amps as the world was transitioning into solid state electronics.

That did not last, and I'm talking about before trade with Russia was basically halted.