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by numa7numa7 298 days ago
> We already have two incompatible visions of what America should be. One side wants a multi-ethnic democracy with a social safety net. The other wants a white Christian ethnostate with unlimited corporate power.

Isn't JD Vance married to an Indian lady?

The article is very interesting and smart and well written with some really great ideas, but I think there may be a little bit of hyperbole which Im still ok with.
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tkel 298 days ago
And Thomas Jefferson had children with his slave.
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exolymph 297 days ago
Point being? Are you insinuating that Usha Vance is treated equivalent to a chattel slave? That seems... incorrect.
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smitty1e 297 days ago
And then there was a bloody civil war to eliminate chattel slavery.

These days we have more sophisticated control mechanisms involving government regulations.

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jfengel 297 days ago
Do we? We seem to be busily dismantling that, along with the apparatus of enforcing it.
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smitty1e 296 days ago
Are we? I would enjoy the privilege of walking away from Social Security like the misguided idea it is.
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jacquesm 293 days ago
Social security is a misguided idea right up to the point that you need it.
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jfengel 296 days ago
OP was referring to regulations rather than debt or entitlements. Thus far we haven't done much to social security (other than firing the help desks, which doesn't really cut into the actual cost.)

Walking away from it would be, uh, problematic. Especially for the demographic who voted most enthusiastically for this administration. Which might make for some poetic justice, but a lot of others would also find themselves in dire straits.

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smitty1e 295 days ago
> OP was referring to regulations rather than debt or entitlements.

One can clearly offer these differentiations, but it's all so much Utopian Progressivism that has simply not withstood the test of time, if we're being honest about the debt.

But honesty scales like Utopian Progressivism, so expect continued ignoring of the problem until the economy 'splodes and the "experts" stand around looking aghast.

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IAmBroom 297 days ago
> Isn't JD Vance married to an Indian lady?

What's your point? One GOP married a brown-skinned person, so they all get a pass?

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numa7numa7 295 days ago
My point is that I don't think the right wants a "white Christian ethnostate".

This is the equivalent of a person on the right calling all liberals "coastal elites that support child molestation"

It's a tribal trait to demonize the "other".

And I say that being mostly a leftist.

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