[MSFT_Edging]

It genuinely is just people joking. I've never met a mustang owner that got upset by the crowd jokes, and they often tell them themselves.

Mustangs got the reputation because they were cheap power with a solid rear end which made peeling out into a turn incredibly unstable.

[genewitch]

"Mustangs are all exhaust until they hit the wall" - my ex

i owned one. it was quite loud. Not as loud as the 240SX i took the muffler off to have a shop look at it up the road, but still, pretty loud.

I still drive a 4.6L V8, though. Just not american.

[MSFT_Edging]

I mean they're only as loud as the person with the saw is determined.

[genewitch]

Ford uses large empty volumes in or around their air cleaner boxes in their "beefy" vehicles, it gives them a distinct sound. For instance, my lexus has the same size engine as a Mustang GT, but it does not sound like a mustang GT at all, because the dual air cleaner boxes are maybe 3% larger than the filter that goes in them. On my ford turbocharged f-150 the air cleaner was like one of those 3 gallon shop vacuums in volume, with a 1.5" thick air filter. Smaller engine (by a whole liter!), but much growlier and beefier.

Mercedes did a neat thing with the exhaust on the C63, where you could flip a switch and switch between "neighborhood" and "open road" exhaust profiles. I think it's one of the best sounding cars ever made.

[supportengineer]

You know I was curious about your statement so I looked it up and Mustangs have had independent rear suspension since 2015

[MSFT_Edging]

Yeah, basically 1/6th their existence.