[nperez]

Whether web or native is better is hardly relevant to the core of this issue IMO, which is about fundamental rights to admin our own devices. Having to make a network request to fetch an external resource every time you want to run code on your own device is sort of a non-solution to this problem.

For a while, I had stopped flashing custom ROMs because the default Android experience was good enough for me, but it looks like this is now necessary again.

[oniony]

And then you cannot use your phone for payments.

[jech]

> And then you cannot use your phone for payments.

That's why you have a debit card. And if your bank won't give you a debit card, you find a better bank.

[Speedy218]

It's super convenient storing your payment card in your phone securely though and not having to carry around another card which can be stolen or lost at any time, it's nice simply taking your phone out and holding it to a reader than taking out an entire card, yet again another useful device functionality purposefully neutered under the guise of security.

[em-bee]

one of my banks requires an app on my phone or desktop. the android app does not work on /e/OS, it needs an original google android system. the desktop app runs only on original windows (tested wine, it doesn't work) for any payment i make. only withdrawing cash from an ATM doesn't need 2FA.

[fc417fc802]

You clearly need to switch to a bank that isn't user hostile.

Also we are obviously in dire need of legislation preventing such behavior.

[em-bee]

the android app used to work until a few months ago, but they updated their system and forced everyone to switch.

[jech]

Have you tried calling your bank advisor to see what they can recommend? (You do have a phone number to call, right?)