| > a well designed test suite does run fast Not what I meant. Even if the test suite itself executed instantly, which it doesn't and it's ridiculous to assume that test suites are "well designed" in the average case, it's still the bureaucratic slow nightmare of "enterprise development". > they very easily could have determined how readily the bot talks about suicide under guise of "character development" or whatever they call that very well known jailbreak. Even if it could be detected it is absolutely in no way implied, or even suggested, that having a bureaucratic enterprise test suite would have detected that. That's just an assertion that you're making. > move fast and break shit with social media and AI is sociopathic. As I said, I don't completely agree with the mantra. I just said that it comes out of a legitimate frustration with how awful enterprise development can be. > At this point MFABS is just another way to say unprofessional software engineering in favor of more profit. I don't disagree with this, hence why I said it's ok for stuff that's low-stakes. If you're working on something like, for example, a music recommendation system, and the system accidentally plays a Taylor Swift song instead of Metallica, and this happens because some software wasn't properly tested, it really isn't a big deal, somehow the metal-head will survive. "Professional" and "unprofessional" aren't well defined terms. There are times when it's ok to half-ass something because it's better to just get something that works instead of getting something that's perfect. There are lots of applications, maybe even most applications, where that doesn't apply and it's better to try an strive for perfection, but it is intellectually dishonest to pretend that everything silicon valley is working on is high-stakes and that striving for perfection immediately is actually beneficial. I would love a universe where everyone designed everything in TLA+ (or something similar) before building software, this would make me irrationally happy, but I understand that it's not realistic or even reasonable to do this for every application. |