[jajko]

You talk about US or China? For outsiders, the lines are getting blurrier every day, in quite a few aspects US is currently the bigger/worse offender and a proper bully. China just wants to sell their cars here.

I wouldnt take my family to a trip to US these days for example, no such issue with China. One sample aspect, a very practical one too, but there are many others.

[somenameforme]

I quite like how link [2] he provided leads with something like "The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has many ways of administratively disappearing those it distrusts. It has punished tens of millions of people through its formal, but crude and opaque, criminal justice system."

US Incarceration Rate: 541 per 100k

Chinese Incarceration Rate: 119 per 100k

It leads to the amusing outcome that the US has more people incarcerated than China, in spite of China having 4x the population of the US. It's entirely possible to criticize the Chinese system without resorting to disinformation, but as you allude to, those critiques probably hit a bit too close to home. It's akin to how the Wiki page on authoritarianism [1] has been radically shifted over time to the point that "modern" definition and the definition of 20 years ago [2] are completely different. Yet the old definition is the one that literally everybody uses, but it, again, hits a bit too close to home.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Authoritarianism&...

[hopelite]

Let’s be honest here. America has the extremely high incarceration rate because of two primary factors; many of Americas regions are effectively uncivilized (if you don’t know that, you simply cannot understand this issue), and there is also a high problem of violence by Africans and if justice and law enforcement were actually conducted to keep society safe and peaceful as should be, the per capita incarceration rate and the real number of Africans incarcerated in the USA would be even far higher.

The “amusing outcome” is actually that when you look at the crime rates of East Asians, you see similar rates as in east Asia, and if you look at all other ethnicities’ crime rates anywhere they are, you also see similar patterns, not matter how removed they are from each other.

These are not complicated or challenging things, the problem is just that a new kind of delusional religion has been constructed around believing nonsense as a base assumption.

[nosignono]

> many of Americas regions are effectively uncivilized

I suppose America does have a lot of undeveloped land and national parks that are left wild, but I don't see how that could ...

> ... the real number of Africans incarcerated in the USA would be even far higher

... Ohhhh you are just racist. Got it. Take that somewhere else.

[somenameforme]

Quite bold to say the quiet part out loud. I think for what good intention there was at some point, it was to prevent a repeat of America circa 1900 which worked as an inspiration to Germany circa 1930, but it ended up getting taken to a no less destructive extreme. Nonetheless, it makes pointing out issues with legal systems in other countries overt misinformation, as it's plainly false.