[MBCook]

And, to GP’s point, there is no one to replace them.

As someone who lived Apple stuff were between a rock and a hard place. What we loved is dissolving away into mediocrity or worse. And we don’t like the competition better. If we did we’d already be over there.

Add in that lots of companies like to follow Apple’s design leads, for better or worse, and we’re left with nowhere to go.

So we really want the thing we liked to be good again. Or at least to stop getting worse for no good reason.

[linguae]

This is exactly how I feel as someone who enjoyed the Mac during the Jobs era of Mac OS X and has been quite disappointed with the state of personal computing since then. The Apple experience is not the same today as it was during the Snow Leopard days. It seems to me that the old guard at Apple is gone and that the people making the key decisions at Apple in the past decade or so are taking Apple in a different direction than what I would like, as someone who is a big fan of both the classic Macintosh and Jobs-era Mac OS X.

What I'd give for a modern OS with an interface designed with the principles of people like Don Norman and Bruce Tognazzini in mind, combined with rock-solid underpinnings taking advantage of the best that OS research had to offer in the past 30 years. In other words, I want an updated Smalltalk/Lisp machine with a classic Mac interface brought up to 2020s standards regarding networking, security, and other concerns.

Modern macOS to me is a disappointment compared to Mac OS X Snow Leopard, and don't get me started on the lack of user-upgradeable RAM in modern Macs. However, Windows 10/11 is even more disappointing to me compared to Windows 7, which was a nice OS and is my second favorite version of Windows, my favorite being Windows 2000. Desktop Linux seems to be in an eternal Sisyphean cycle of churn.

So, today I begrudgingly use Windows on my personal machines and macOS on my work-issued MacBook Pro, longing for a compelling alternative to appear one day that pushes personal computing forward.

[LoganDark]

It really feels like Apple is very slowly going the way of enshittification. What's a consumer to do, switch to another platform? Don't make me laugh. Windows and Linux drive me insane. Apple's operating systems are the only ones that seem to 'get' me, which really makes it suck that they're in such danger.

[wpm]

Tahoe is the first macOS that I don't "get", and its fucking scary. I can stay on Sequoia for another year or so, and then what?

When Tahoe came out, I tried it for a day, liked some of it, hated most of it. I gave it a week. Still hated most of it.

The end of that week I bought a used ThinkPad and installed Arch on it. My future is no longer on the Mac. I have a few years to try and transition, but I am otherwise done with them. Butt ugly uber-rounded bouba squircles for fucking windows that cut off the content in my PDFs? That can't even help but cut off the buttom of the scroll bars? This piss ugly grey on light grey on grey with the most pathetic, cowardly whisper of texture they call "glass"? It's fucking over. At least until Alan Dye crawls back into whatever print ad shithole he crawled out of.

[andrekandre]

  > The end of that week I bought a used ThinkPad and installed Arch on it. My future is no longer on the Mac. 

same, i think the slow decline of macos' user interface means kde is actually the same level or even better (kde slowly improving mac slowly declining) so i might as well jump sooner than later... i'll miss the quality of some native apps, but that to me is more a business opportunity than a pure negative per se