[mnky9800n]

I met a guy on the airplane the other day whose job is to vibe code for people who can't vibe code. He showed me his discord server (he paid for plane wifi), where he charges people 50$/month to be in the server and he helps them unfuck their vibe coded projects. He had around 1000 people in the server.

[daveidol]

So wait is he an actual software engineer doing this as a side hustle? Or like a vibe coder guru that basically only works with AI tools?

[mnky9800n]

He said he used to be a software dev. Then he started consulting on the side making websites, doing SEO, and he just started doing that fulltime. But then SEO died because of AI (according to him anyways). then he started vibe coding like a year or two ago and saw all these people posting in forums about how everything they made broke and they don't know what to do. So he started helping people for money and it turned into a thing.

I watched him text people and say "set up a lovable account, put in your credit card info then send me the login". Then he would just write some prompts for them on lovable to build their websites for them. Then text them back on discord and be like "done".

He said he had multiple tiers, like 50$/month got you in the discord and he would reply your questions and whatever. but for 500$/month he would do everything you want and just chat with you about what you wanted for your incredible facebook replacement app for whatever. But I mean most of the stuff seemed like it was just some small business trying to figure out a way to use the internet in 2025.

All this gave me anxiety because I'm here as an academic scientist NOT making 50$/month*1000 signups to vibe code for people who can't vibe code when I definitely know how to vibe code at least. Haha. Maybe I should listen to all my startup friends and go work at a startup instead.

[at-fates-hands]

>> But then SEO died because of AI (according to him anyways).

Former web dev and I still do some SEO and for the most part, he's correct. I've posted on here multiple times over the last two to three years how easy it is now to manipulate search engines now.

Back in the day, when you needed content for SEO and needed it to be optimized, you had to find a content writer who knew how to do this, or write it yourself and hope that Google doesn't bury your site for stuffing your content with keywords.

Now? Any LLM can spin out optimized content in a few seconds. Any LLM can review your site, compare it to a competitor and tell you want you should do to rank better. All of the stuff SEO people used to do? You can do now in the span of a few mins with any LLM. This is lower hanging fruit than vibe coding and Google has yet to adjust their algorithm to deal with this.

A few years ago, I cranked out an entire services area page for a client. I had AI write all the content. Granted, it was pretty clunky and I had to clean some of it up, but it saved me hours of trying to write it myself. We're talking some 20-30 pages that I gradually posted over the course of several months. Within a days, every new page was ranking page 1 within the top ten results.

[BostonFern]

I need to start hanging out in more lucrative forums, apparently.

[simultsop]

You just might be in the right place. Asking same question, wait until someone will make a directory website to sell access to you to find those forums.

[hasperdi]

Any pointers which forums do these people hang out?

[mnky9800n]

I wish. He said that in the beginning he built a core group just with direct contacts but then he started a YouTube channel to drive traffic to the discord. He paid my buymeacoffee.com link because I showed him my windowfied.com tool I made to let you have dir commands on osx instead of ls.

I hope you can meet him on a plane too.

[chipsrafferty]

Why would anyone want dir