[HumanOstrich]

What's the benchmark for how long something can be pre-1.0? Seems like a nonsense argument.

[Dylan16807]

It's the combination of pre-1.0 and having rapid development speed that is being questioned here. And it's a good question, not nonsense.

If you keep up the development pace you're going to approach stability. Unless you're in a manic spiral of rewrites.

[yxhuvud]

Something can be pre-1.0 as long as there are no stability guarantees.

[pharrington]

There is no benchmark. As a species, we don't even know know what a good programming language is, let alone how to reliably develop one. This stuff takes time, and we're all learning it together.

I like to compare this to real world cathedral building. There are some cathedrals that are literally taking centuries to build! It's OK if the important, but difficult thing takes a long time to build.

[Dylan16807]

Cathedrals are the opposite of extreme beta mode with lots of breaking changes.

[pharrington]

Yes. I guess what I meant is that cathedrals are a complex system that we know how to do, and still they take ages to build properly.

[throwawaymaths]

https://github.com/ziglang/zig/milestone/2