[rcpt]

Huge skepticism that bicycles and motorcycles were getting backed into in any appreciable quantities.

[joecool1029]

If not that then rear-ended, here's the state's report on how red light cameras increased accidents: https://dot.nj.gov/transportation/about/publicat/lmreports/p...

[potato3732842]

How many people you willing to put in the hospital to prevent people from technically running reds on the yellow-red transition?

[rcpt]

> in 2023, 1,086 people were killed in crashes that involved red light running

https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/red-light-running

So let's use that as an upper bound.

How many people were killed by these backups you're talking about?