[phkahler]

>> could you imagine the audacity of actually not driving into an intersection when the light is yellow and you know you're going to block the crossing traffic?

I wonder how many Waymos following the rules would be needed to reduce gridlock.

[darth_avocado]

Waymo in SF pretty much drives like a human, and that includes doing human things like cutting lanes, stopping wherever it feels like, driving in the bus lane etc. I think it’ll be fine in NYC

[kenhwang]

Waymo in LA also drives pretty much like a human here would, which includes: not yielding for pedestrian-only crosswalks, running red lights, driving in the oncoming traffic/suicide/bike lane, occupying two lanes, blocking entrances/driveways/intersections, and stopping/parking in no-stop/parking curbs.

They're only really phenomenal at not hitting things; they really aren't good/courteous/predictable drivers under most conventional definitions.

Still, I think rollout in NYC will be fine. NYC generally drives slower and much less aggressively than LA, and slower gives the Waymo plenty of reaction time to not hit things.

[esalman]

I can attest to that. I live in Orange county and occasionally see Waymos when I go to LA, and they'll do things like merging with very little gap or merging in the middle of interactions.

[kingkawn]

SF traffic is but a single speck of nyc

[Grazester]

Traffic? The issue half the time in NYC is the drivers. I can't compare it to SF since I haven't been there in a while but I still thought it was not as congested to compared to NYC.

NYC has a greater population and also has a greater number of registered cars compare to SF however.

[cj]

As a comparison, I feel safe riding a motorcycle in SF. I don’t think I would ever ride a motorcycle in NYC.

Riding safely requires predicting what the cars around you are about to do. I find it an order of magnitude harder to predict driver behavior in NYC.

[eldaisfish]

the solution to traffic is transit, not computers driving cars.