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by xienze 301 days ago
> I see so many people get stuck "arguing" with a model over this, getting more and more frustrated as the model keeps repeating variations of the broken answer

Maybe because people expect AI systems that are touted as all-knowing, all-powerful, coming-for-your-job to be smart enough to remember what was said two turns ago?
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vidarh 301 days ago
That's fine once or twice. At that point people should learn that this isn't how they work, and figure out how to use them better.

It's not a tools fault if people insist on continuing to use them in counter-productive ways.

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asadotzler 301 days ago
It's not the tools fault when people RTFM (guidance from the tool maker) and use it as it's intended (again, by the tool maker, who presumably knows how it works and is in the best position to guide users).

"If you keep pressing the back button like the IE engineers told you to, of course you will fail to go back. To go back you want to press the forward button. Are you an idiot? Press the forward button to go back, at least until the next version release when you will need to press the reload button to go back. Trust me, eventually the back button will go back, but for now only fools press the back button to go back."

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vidarh 300 days ago
No, it's not the tools fault if you continue to use it in ways that according to you, yourself does not work, despite the availability of better guidance.

Do you always insist on listening to guidance you've observed doesn't work?

It sounds immensely counter-productive.

Meanwhile I'll continue to have AI tools write the majority of my code at this point.

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xienze 301 days ago
They’re non-deterministic, remember? So it’s not always the case that an LLM will get stuck in this sort of loop. Hence why people get frustrated when it happens and continue to think that perhaps it should be working on a more consistent basis.
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vidarh 300 days ago
So are people.

It is no more productive to continue to go in circles with an argumentative person who refuses to see reason.

If someone haven't learnt that lesson, they will get poor results at a whole lot more things in life than talking to AI.

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