[blueflow]

I find such statements frightening. Too many people can not tell the different between prevalence ("everybody does it") and factually correct.

[chpatrick]

Nothing to do with dice though.

[blueflow]

The whole "stochastic means to find factual correctness" thing is an error of method, arguing about weights here is nonsense.

[chpatrick]

It isn't though, the most factually correct human expert is also stochastic. The only question is how the dice are weighted.

[blueflow]

"human expert" as reference for "factually correct", oh just gently caress yourself. Appeal to authority (expert = social status) is as much bullshit as appeal to popularity.

[chpatrick]

Right now the fully deterministic always correct oracle machine doesn't exist. The most authorative answer we can get on a subject is from a respected human in their field (who is still stochastic). It's unrealistic to hold LLMs to a higher standard than that.

[blueflow]

"The runway is free"

- Jacob Veldhuyzen van Zanten, respected aviation expert, 1977 teneriffa, brushing off the flight engineers concern about another machine on the runway